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- - By noskillz (Techus Dorkus Maximus) Date 2006-07-16 6:19 PM Edited 2006-07-16 6:46 PM
Anyone using one yet?   Any opinions, comments, rants, anything? :)

This is a recently released accelerometer / pedometer type device that is designed to go into Nike Plus + shoes which have a little pocket for the transmitter (but it can theoretically be used with any shoe).  The official name is the Nike + iPod Sports Kit.  The kit contains the little chip (transmitter) and a wireless receiver which plugs into the bottom of an ipod nano (ipod nano only supported right now - no other models).  The nano receives the information during the run...and displays various statistics on the ipod screen.  It can also be configured to give various voice information to the runner during the run (through the ipod headphones).    Once the ipod nano is synced with itunes on the pc/mac the data is then present in itunes somehow..and gets sent (automatically?) to nikeplus.com which allows the data to be viewed, tracked, etc.   It appears they're implementing some "community" aspects as well but it isn't implemented yet.   The product also changes the middle button into some sort of "power song" button which when pressed plays a preselected song (theoretically one that will motivate you to pick up the pace.. :) )   They claim > 90% accuracy for most users w/o calibration, and increased accuracy with calibration. 

FAQ about the product:  http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=303934
Apple product info page: http://www.apple.com/ipod/nike/
Nike plus site: http://www.nikeplus.com

I wonder if Apple is subsidizing the product.. if it is really an accelerometer + the wirless transmitter, r&d, etc, it seems it would be more costly than $30. 

Assuming it works as well as advertised, it seems like a good (and quite a bit cheaper) alternative to a garmin forerunner or other GPS product, especially for someone that regularly runs with an ipod anyway...and no laptop strapped to the wrist. 

Here is an interesting white paper on the technology used in the adidas / polar product, I'm not sure if it is the same technology or not? http://www.dynastream.com/datafiles/SpeedMax%20White%20Paper%20v4_1.pdf

Is anyone using it with non Nike+ shoes and how did you affix it to the shoe?
Parent - By ehsiung [us] Date 2006-07-17 4:34 PM

>I wonder if Apple is subsidizing the product.. if it is really an accelerometer + the wirless transmitter, r&d, etc, it seems it would be more costly than $30.


$30 does seem a bit low, probably not your typical 4x retail markup, but both companies probably treat it as a loss-leader. Apple wants to sell more iPods and song downloads, Nike wants to sell more shoes.

>Assuming it works as well as advertised, it seems like a good (and quite a bit cheaper) alternative to a garmin forerunner or other GPS product, especially for someone that regularly runs with an ipod anyway...and no laptop strapped to the wrist.


Foot pods and GPS both have pros and cons. I started with a Nike Tailwind SDM but the accuracy was always suspect, especially if you run in hilly areas. Now I have a Garmin 205 and I like everything about it except the bulk.

>Here is an interesting white paper on the technology used in the adidas / polar product, I'm not sure if it is the same technology or not?


Nike uses Dynastream technology for the Tailwind and the Triax so it wouldn't be surprising if Dynastream is providing the technology for Nike+. I've been googling but haven't been able to verify if this is true or not.
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