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- - By The Beard (is wearing Arm Panties) [us] Date 2018-10-08 9:09 PM
What are you driving?
Parent - By stickywicket Date 2018-10-09 2:33 AM
Toyota Allex. :cool:
Parent - By Xtreme Taper Date 2018-10-09 6:41 AM
Same thing as the last time you asked the question.  :laugh:

2008 Ford Edge SEL,  Black, 145,000+ miles. The trail mobile.
2011 Ford Edge SEL, Silver, 117,000 miles.

Both purchased used.
Parent - - By mutiger [us] Date 2018-10-09 3:43 PM
I got a Tesla Model 3...didnt take it...should probably do the formal decline and get my $1000 back. :meh:

mine....2009 BMW 535i...mostly sits around 65Kish miles.
wife....2018 BMW X5 eDrive (PHEV).....~3000 miles? She does not let me drive it :cry:
Parent - - By neustkg (Important) Date 2018-10-10 6:37 AM
I happened to be in a local mall that had three Teslas on display.  I couldn't get over how expensive they were.  One of the most expensive models (I think it had the best range on the battery) was about $160k.  The more affordable one was still $60k.  While there are a ton of Teslas on the road here in Colorado, I see a sh!t ton of Nissan Leaf's out there.  I still think the Volt is the best deal for plugin as it also has a gas engine for when you run out of juice.
Parent - - By The Beard (is wearing Arm Panties) [us] Date 2018-10-10 7:52 AM
It depends on what you're looking for.

Teslas are cool gadgets, people buying them are doing so for the tech and image, saving money isn't part of the equation.

Even more affordable EVs aren't about saving money at this point, the base msrps of new EVs are still WAY higher than their gas counterparts. You could buy gas for the lifetime of the car and still likely come out spending less money than you would on a new EV.

Hopefully, EVs will follow the same trajectory of hybrids - expensive to begin with followed by advancing tech and much lower prices. Many hybrids now are priced right on top of their gas counterparts.

If I were to buy an EV I would go the used route. You can find fairly low mileage Leafs for around $10k. At that price, it could make sense as a second car.

Like you, I'd opt for a plug in hybrid instead, of which the Volt stands out to me as the best. The new ones are very nice and are actually efficient when using gas, which wasn't exactly the case with the first generation.

Like the Leaf, first generation Volts can be found at low prices in the used market.
Parent - - By neustkg (Important) Date 2018-10-12 6:38 AM
The only thing about used Volts is the possible price for a new battery should you need to replace it.  I've heard they are very pricey. 

I'd like to see all vehicles (including V-8 trucks) have some kind of hybrid technology built in eventually.  That would save a ton of gas/emissions overall.
Parent - - By The Beard (is wearing Arm Panties) [us] Date 2018-10-12 7:19 AM
The "cost to replace a battery" argument comes up a lot when talking about hybrids but I'm not sure that it is a terribly worthwhile concern. Priuses (refuse to say Prii) have been in taxi service for years, tallying a ton of stop and go miles that would be severe on a battery yet they have not had many issues. From our personal experience our Insight is now almost 10 years old and has almost 99k miles on it and the battery is fine, mileage is virtually identical to when it was brand new.
Parent - - By The Beard (is wearing Arm Panties) [us] Date 2018-10-14 12:21 PM
F*ck, I jinxed myself. The “Check IMA System” light came on today. I’m bringing it in tomorrow to get checked out but from what I’ve read it sounds like the hybrid battery is failing.

The car is soon to need new tires and an oil change. Adding those things to whatever the battery issue may cost is going to be a lot of money. It could be enough that we sell it to Carmax or similar; we don’t really need two cars.

Or see what they’d offer for a trade. There’s a slightly newer, lower mileage Fit on their used lot that might only be a few thousand dollars more than what the above maintenance might cost.
Parent - - By The Beard (is wearing Arm Panties) [us] Date 2018-10-15 9:51 AM
I looked around online a bit and it doesn't always mean a failed battery. A hybrid site that I was looking at described how to "rev charge" (Or something similar sounding) the IMA battery - remove the ground wire from the starter battery for roughly 30 seconds, reattach it and then start the car, revving it at about 3500 rpms and watch the battery icon fill in.

I did this and the "Check IMA System" light disappeared and the car seems to be working fine. I took it to the dealer this morning and they said to bring it back in if the light came back on and they would scan it for error codes (which wasn't easily done today when the light was not on. If it doesn't come back on, it is likely fine.

From my reading it seems that if the battery has failed the "Check IMA System" light would be accompanied by the "Check Engine" light.

Fingers crossed.
Parent - - By neustkg (Important) Date 2018-10-16 6:37 AM
Crossing fingers, too.

Seems like a weekend for car issues.  This weekend we had a rain/sleet/snow mix (first major precip since about July).  We went to Boulder with clear skies and when we had to leave it was rain/sleet/snowing.  Of course you need defrost with this, but the only air we could get out of the dash was through the vents.  No defrost vents and no lower vents.  We had heat, but you couldn't switch and there was no AC (we had to use AC about a week before).  30 minutes later, we made it home and the windshield was finally clear, but still no defrost.  I went on youtube and found out it is probably an actuator.  Usually they make a clicking sound with the gears losing a tooth or two, but it looks like the little 24v motor died.  Luckily it is in a fairly easy location to get to (you have to remove the glove box) and I think I can get them for $15 on ebay.  So that's what I need to do before we get more bad weather.  I'm definitely not taking it to a shop as the dealer charges about $80 for the part and a total of $350 total to replace it.

I had to replace all three last year in the Impala as they each had stripped gear (lost teeth).  One was easy to get to, the other two not so.  I may have to replace another one in the glove box area (the easy one).  I may buy this one from the dealer this time as the one I bought from Rock Auto died so quickly.  I still have the three actuators on my desk (I'm a bit of a hoarder).  When I take the one out of the Traverse, I may take it apart and see if the motor is the same as the ones on my desk (these have stripped gears with OK motors) and swap the motors into the Traverse actuator.  Just takes some low level soldering skills, which I have.
Parent - By The Beard (is wearing Arm Panties) [us] Date 2018-10-16 7:24 AM
Glad that you can fix it cheaply.

So far the Insight is performing normally. I'm cautiously optimistic.
Parent - - By LDR (100 Mile Stud) [us] Date 2018-10-10 6:50 PM
The Vibe.  318,445 miles.  (Just had a headlight changed this afternoon.  Hope it wasn't a waste of $15.)
Parent - - By The Beard (is wearing Arm Panties) [us] Date 2018-10-11 7:31 AM
:shocker!::shocker!::shocker!:
Parent - - By triplejake (The Vampire Lestat) [us] Date 2018-10-17 3:36 PM
No one's gotten that kind of mileage out of a Vibe since Skibabe left the forum.  :shocker!::wtf::roll:
Parent - By tahoeblue (spamkiller) Date 2018-10-17 3:39 PM
:shocker!:
Parent - By The Beard (is wearing Arm Panties) [us] Date 2018-10-17 5:17 PM
POTW
- By The Beard (is wearing Arm Panties) [us] Date 2018-10-08 9:10 PM
2010 Honda Insight EX, 98,400 miles

2014 Honda CR-V EX AWD, 60,100 miles
- By sideshowbob Date 2018-10-08 9:15 PM
2016 Subaru Outback; 20K miles or so .Highly recommended by the AARP :grin:
- By PoopedColt Date 2018-10-09 5:24 AM
Me 2013 Sonata 92,000 miles
DH 2003 Jeep Liberty 115,000 miles
DS1 2010 Elantra 85,000 miles I think
DS2 2012 Focus 60,000 miles I think
- By Ed [us] Date 2018-10-09 6:16 AM
2017 Subaru Outback...mostly me
2016 Subaru Forester...mostly my DW
- By Tim [us] Date 2018-10-09 6:43 AM
Primary car: 2010 Honda Fit, ~90,000 miles
Demolition Derby car: 2010 Toyota RAV4, ~110,000 miles

The second car is the "Demolition Derby Car" due to existing and anticipated crashes from going through 3 teen drivers. First teen driver resulted in the car getting smashed up twice. The first wasn't her fault - it got hit while it was parked at the high school. The second was her fault - she scraped pretty hard against a tree while parallel parking. The total cost to repair the body to a pristine condition would have been $2,000. I got $1,000 from the insurer of the car which hit it while parked. I then told the guy at the repair shop "This car will go through 3 teen drivers over the next 6 years. There's no point in restoring the body to a pristine condition. Do what needs to be done to get the car drivable again, but nothing more." He did exactly that and the bill came up to about $800.
- - By redraider0528 (Fashionista) Date 2018-10-09 6:58 AM
2015 GMC Yukon Denali
It's got 125,000+ miles on it.

We are looking to downsize in the near future and we've been looking at the Subaru Ascent. Neither of us have driven one so we aren't sure. For some reason, I also like the Toyota 4 Runner.
Parent - - By brneydrnnr (barney cougar) [us] Date 2018-10-09 7:46 AM
You can take mine for a spin when we go to the play :cool:
Parent - - By redraider0528 (Fashionista) Date 2018-10-09 8:00 AM
Yes!!! Well how about you drive me around. Downtown FTW is tricky : pbbt:
Parent - By brneydrnnr (barney cougar) [us] Date 2018-10-09 8:31 AM
:laugh: you're the one that lives there!
- By Annie Date 2018-10-09 7:36 AM
2 Jeeps a JK and a TJ :cool:
- - By brneydrnnr (barney cougar) [us] Date 2018-10-09 7:45 AM
Hubs - 2015 Ford Focus Titanium Hatchback. It's got a shitton of miles due to mrbarney driving back & forth to the mid-cities to get the boys to/from school
me - 2019 Subaru Ascent Limited. Maybe 2,800 miles?
Parent - - By adamswims (Gone Now Adam! You pick what you want.) Date 2018-10-09 7:55 AM
no more BRZ?
Parent - - By The Beard (is wearing Arm Panties) [us] Date 2018-10-09 8:06 AM
If I remember correctly it was totaled.
Parent - By brneydrnnr (barney cougar) [us] Date 2018-10-09 8:32 AM
:cry: it was - that's why we have the Focus. dang me :mutmad:
- By adamswims (Gone Now Adam! You pick what you want.) Date 2018-10-09 7:55 AM
2015 Audi A3 2.0 quattro - 65K
- By rob26.2 Date 2018-10-09 8:29 AM
Jeep Cherokee 2016 about 30,000 miles

Mazda 6 2017 about 17,000 miles
- By Mookiethedog Date 2018-10-09 8:40 AM
2008 Subaru Forester which like my big boy Milo is on it's last legs.  (I love them both...but the dog more than the car)

Twice in the last 3 months I almost got rid of it (the car):hug:
- - By NotSoFast [ca] Date 2018-10-09 9:14 AM
Mazda CX3 manual 6 speed. Its a little small for my taste but I wanted a sporty car with a manual so Gavin can learn to drive in a few years on a smooth short throw easy clutch. Also driving a manual keeps you from texting and driving....
I hear the MX5 is upping the HP to 185 in 2019. Wish I didn't need a backseat.
If I had my way I'd have 2 cars - an MX5 and a Large Hauler like a Suburban, Jeep or Pickup.
Parent - - By NotSoFast [us] Date 2018-10-09 10:26 AM
3 hatchback. My bad. CX was underpowered and no manual.
Parent - - By The Beard (is wearing Arm Panties) [us] Date 2018-10-09 11:40 AM
Yeah, the CX-3 doesn’t make a lot of sense. The 3 I like a lot. :cool:
Parent - - By NotSoFast [ca] Date 2018-10-09 4:36 PM
the engine is very peppy. 200HP I think. I just wish they would make the speed 6 again but so far no chance in hell of that. A true 4 door sports car.....
Parent - - By The Beard (is wearing Arm Panties) [us] Date 2018-10-10 8:49 AM
Parent - - By NotSoFast [ca] Date 2018-10-10 6:10 PM
not in any near plans...plus I want the SPEED 6 wagon. I might have to haul kids but i want to do it in a 450HP stick shift wagon. Is that too much to ask?

There was one year - I'm gonna get my facts wrong so you can correct me - that the Cadillac STX came out with a corvette engine?  Now THAT would have been awesome!
Parent - - By The Beard (is wearing Arm Panties) [us] Date 2018-10-11 7:33 AM
Parent - By NotSoFast [ca] Date 2018-10-12 4:11 PM
Swoon. :evil:
Parent - By brneydrnnr (barney cougar) [us] Date 2018-10-09 11:20 AM
driving a manual keeps you from texting and driving  also less likely to get stolen :cool:
Parent - - By Tommeke Date 2018-10-10 6:32 PM
most cars are manual here and still plenty people texting :meh:

It's funny how US gets different engines though.
I looked up the Mazda 3 and it goes to a 165 hp with a manual 6-speed here (2L apparently, which is a lot in such a car here).
in the US there's a 2.0L 155 hp and a 2.5L 185 hp.
Parent - By NotSoFast [ca] Date 2018-10-12 4:12 PM
I have the 2.5L 185 hp
- By blazer85 [us] Date 2018-10-09 9:31 AM
2009 Lexus 350 (blazerman) Bought it five years ago with 80,000 miles; since he barely drives, he is probably at 100,000ish

2010 Lexus 350 (me) I bought it four years ago with 27,000 miles on it and am THIS CLOSE to 100,000.

2011 Toyota Rav4 - Mine for a year, blazergirl's for five years and now it is the boy's.....though he doesn't have it at school.  Probably about 80,000 miles.

2014 VW Jetta - (blazergirl's) We bought it in 2016 for pennies when VW was dealing with its brand issue.  I absolutely love that vehicle (it is not a diesel).  I have only driven her's a few times, but in the past couple of year's have had them as rental cars.  If my Lexus ever dies, I would definitely consider the Jetta. The mileage is crazy, crazy awesome.
- By tizzy319 (gaping five hole) [us] Date 2018-10-09 10:21 AM
2010 Toyota Prius.  153,000 miles and running smoothly.
- By donnasaur [us] Date 2018-10-09 10:33 AM
me 2010 Prius, about 92,000 miles.
R 2012 Acura TSX. I am not totally sure, but I would bet he is around 40,000. He doesn't drive much
- By runnergirl4 (BJ Queen) Date 2018-10-09 10:39 AM
Ooh ooh ooh, hi beard! I haven’t been here in ages and popped by this morning and I see two threads I can post in :hug:

Me: 2018 Lexus RX 350. Black. 2200 miles.
DH: 2008 Lexus LX (I don’t know what # :grin:) >150k miles. He loves that car.
- - By gadget girl Date 2018-10-09 10:45 AM
2003 Honda Pilot with 100,008 miles.  I forgot to watch it roll to 100,000.  I am devastated. :cry::cry:
Parent - - By redraider0528 (Fashionista) Date 2018-10-09 11:11 AM
I missed it too :cry:
Parent - - By gadget girl Date 2018-10-09 11:47 AM
my priorities in life are totally messed up.  : pbbt:
Parent - - By The Beard (is wearing Arm Panties) [us] Date 2018-10-09 1:26 PM
Please tell me that you caught 80085. It looks like it spells "BOOBS".:laugh::cool::laugh::cool::laugh::cool:
Parent - By Mookiethedog Date 2018-10-09 1:34 PM
Awesome....I'm nearing 280085(km) which will be like 2 BOOBS.  If I actually see 2 boobs at that precise moment I'll buy a lottery ticket :hug:
Parent - - By gadget girl Date 2018-10-09 2:15 PM
I missed that one too :cry::cry: but I did drive down Hollywood Boulevard the other day so I did see some 80085 while looking out the window. :laugh::cool::laugh:
Parent - By brneydrnnr (barney cougar) [us] Date 2018-10-10 8:03 AM
:laugh:
- By Beastie Girl [us] Date 2018-10-09 11:19 AM
me: 2017 Subaru Outback, ~27k miles
DH: 2016 Dodge Ram big truck thing, I don't know the miles
- - By tahoeblue (spamkiller) Date 2018-10-09 4:45 PM
1997 Ford Taurus - ~150,000 miles - Raider silver
2010 Prius - 80k miles - Nittany blue
2010 Silverado Hybrid - 65k miles - Nittany blue
2013 Nissan Leaf - 45k miles - Raider black
Parent - By tahoeblue (spamkiller) Date 2018-10-15 10:20 AM
Picked up an ELM327 OBDii bluetooth reader ($8) and Leaf Spy Pro ($15) so that I could take a real look at the battery in the Leaf.

Bought it a few months ago and chose this one mainly because all battery bars were still showing.  Sounded too good to be true, so thought I should take a more detailed look.  We visited the Leaf over the weekend in Santa Cruz.  The car has 48k miles on it.  The reader shows an 86.6% state of health and a very good charge balance between all 96 battery cells.  The car has been quick charged 207 times and L1/L2 charged just over 1100 times.  The car is getting about 4 miles/kWh.  With a 24 kWh battery at 86.6%, that means it still has a range of about 83 miles.  Not all that bad for a 2013.  Many of the older Leafs are down to 6 or 7 battery bars (about 50% of capacity).  Since the daily drive is only 10 miles and there are chargers on both ends of the drive, I think it will be good for a while.
- - By mutiger [us] Date 2018-10-10 7:54 AM
me - 2009 BMW 535i - Dark Blue - 65Kish miles
Mrs Mut. - 2018 BMW x5 eDrive - 2K miles?

I can order my tesla model 3 but I think Im just going to take my $1000 back.
Parent - - By The Beard (is wearing Arm Panties) [us] Date 2018-10-10 8:48 AM
Are the Model 3s that are available still jacked up with options or can you get an "affordable" one?
Parent - By gadget girl Date 2018-10-10 9:35 AM
no "affordable" one as far as we can tell.
Parent - By mutiger [us] Date 2018-10-10 9:46 AM
you have to order the jacked up one if you want it anytime soon.
Parent - - By gadget girl Date 2018-10-10 9:35 AM
that's what my husband is doing.  He's getting his money back since that was obviously just a scam.  :meh:
Parent - - By mutiger [us] Date 2018-10-10 9:49 AM
smart guy :hug:
Parent - - By gadget girl Date 2018-10-10 11:43 AM
the real smart guy is Elon Musk -- get millions of dollars in interest free loans from customers and then pull a bait and switch...  One would think he wouldn't need money from his "Saudi investors".  Oh yeah, that too was a scam to inflate the stock price.  :meh:
Parent - - By The Beard (is wearing Arm Panties) [us] Date 2018-10-10 5:40 PM
The guy might be smart but he sure can come off as an asshole.
Parent - By Tommeke Date 2018-10-10 6:39 PM
also he clearly did not inhale :mutmad:
Parent - - By sideshowbob Date 2018-10-11 7:10 AM
A few months ago, the NYT labelled him as "the Donald trump of Silicon Valley " :grin:
Parent - By gadget girl Date 2018-10-11 12:18 PM
the Wall Street Journal seems to hate him too.  :grin:
Parent - By The Beard (is wearing Arm Panties) [us] Date 2018-10-10 10:43 AM
:cool:
Parent - By donnasaur [us] Date 2018-10-10 11:24 AM
I have to get my $1000 back too...I'm not getting one right now.
- - By callie [ca] Date 2018-10-11 7:34 AM
2009 Chevy Uplander. 70,000 ish km. Just livin the dream over here, folks.
Parent - By brneydrnnr (barney cougar) [us] Date 2018-10-11 7:40 AM
oooh...look at this girl just popping in! :wink:
Parent - - By The Beard (is wearing Arm Panties) [us] Date 2018-10-11 9:01 AM
In American measurements please.:mutmad:
Parent - - By Tommeke Date 2018-10-11 4:18 PM
The metric system is the tool of the devil! My car gets forty rods to the hogshead and that's the way I likes it.
Parent - By The Beard (is wearing Arm Panties) [us] Date 2018-10-11 4:59 PM
POTW. :laugh::laugh:
Parent - By callie [ca] Date 2018-10-11 8:10 PM
:laugh:
Parent - By sideshowbob Date 2018-10-12 7:33 AM
:laugh::laugh::laugh:
Parent - By callie [ca] Date 2018-10-11 8:11 PM
No. Learn normal measurements.

And I was wrong. It’s 61k kilometres.
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