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- - By The Beard (is wearing Arm Panties) [us] Date 2018-01-09 6:37 AM
5.3 miles. 25*. Felt nice.
Parent - - By noquitter [us] Date 2018-01-09 7:11 AM
25 is starting to seem great compared to what it was last week.
Parent - - By The Beard (is wearing Arm Panties) [us] Date 2018-01-09 8:28 AM
Exactly. It's 40* warmer than it was a couple mornings about a week ago.:shocker!:
Parent - By classicsnerd [us] Date 2018-01-09 8:51 AM
:shocker!:
Parent - By Arimathea [us] Date 2018-01-09 8:38 AM
25 is still below freezing...*shiver*
Parent - By blazer85 [us] Date 2018-01-09 10:32 AM
25 without wind isn't awful.  Hopefully, not a lot of wind for you.
Parent - - By Xtreme Taper Date 2018-01-09 12:25 PM
4 at lunch at the local Sprogels Run trail with the lady. Balmy out there. High 30's almost felt like short sleeve weather. Trails still lightly snow covered but that may disappear soon if this summer like weather holds. LOL. I won't hold my breath, as cold forecast again for Sunday into next week but at least more normal winter cold.

Will probably hit the gym tonight for some weights and such.
Parent - - By cowboyjunkie Date 2018-01-09 12:41 PM
How is your knee feeling?
Parent - - By Xtreme Taper Date 2018-01-09 1:05 PM
Eh, better not perfect, but better. Not ready for any big miles yet that's for sure. If I keep my runs on easier terrain things are pretty good but I like the more adventurous stuff. I really feel slow and out of shape too.
Parent - By cowboyjunkie Date 2018-01-09 1:20 PM
Understandable you would feel that way, but I am glad you are keeping things low key for now :hug:
Parent - By Schantzie [us] Date 2018-01-09 7:01 PM
Glad you're being prudent with your comeback.  It really pisses me off how quickly we lose our fitness edge compared to how long it takes to get in shape, but sometimes, it's just what you gotta do, and even slow running is way better than no running.
Parent - By redraider0528 (Fashionista) Date 2018-01-09 1:38 PM
Glad you got out there for a bit! :cool:
Parent - By Schantzie [us] Date 2018-01-09 6:58 PM
High 30's almost felt like short sleeve weather.  No :meh: 

Glad to hear you enjoyed the run though.
Parent - By redraider0528 (Fashionista) Date 2018-01-09 1:37 PM
Nice run! You crushed me as usual!
Parent - - By george [us] Date 2018-01-09 1:39 PM
7 miles with 3 of my teammates this morning. Finally over freezing so I wore shorts!
Parent - - By noquitter [us] Date 2018-01-09 6:33 PM
Shorts? It would have to be at least 10 degrees above freezing unless it was a race.
Parent - By george [us] Date 2018-01-10 9:09 AM
My threshold lately is around 30. It used to be 20 but I've become soft in my old age, I guess.
Parent - By Schantzie [us] Date 2018-01-09 7:02 PM
you are a braver soul than I am.  Nice job on the 7 :cool:
Parent - - By old turtle Date 2018-01-09 4:43 PM
4.5 miles with my neighbor. It was my first run with her since before Christmas . We had a lot of catching up to do. :happy:
Parent - By Arimathea [us] Date 2018-01-09 5:13 PM
So nice to have a neighbor you can run and talk with!
Parent - - By noquitter [us] Date 2018-01-09 6:33 PM
How convenient to have a neighbor runner.
Parent - By old turtle Date 2018-01-09 8:48 PM
It's been a really good thing. We would pass each other for a few years and say hello. Then one day we decided to run together. (Not sure why it took us so long...)
Parent - - By Schantzie [us] Date 2018-01-09 7:03 PM
That's a lot of catching up!  Will you get hear more later this week?
Parent - By old turtle Date 2018-01-09 8:44 PM
I hope so.  :grin:
Parent - - By jaszflamus (I like wool!) Date 2018-01-09 5:17 PM
YAY we're back up! :grin: And YAY it got above freezing here for the first time in a few weeks! :shocker!: Perfect for a run to the PA Farm Show at lunchtime for my annual pigout at the PA products food court although I ran out of money after buying maple syrup for mrs. flamus and potato donuts for the office. I had just enough for a mushroom salad and a beef-mushroom burger. The other stuff (trout chowder, fried pickles, fried mozzarella stick, chocolate bacon, baked potato and a milkshake) will wait until later this week.

Oh yeah, I ran 5.5 miles in about 41F, the last 1.5 miles with a half-gallon of maple syrup and a pile of donuts on my back. :happy:
Parent - - By Schantzie [us] Date 2018-01-09 6:56 PM
Welcome back!!  You almost forgot this was about running, didn't you?  :laugh:  That's OK  The food sounds really good! :wink:
Parent - By jaszflamus (I like wool!) Date 2018-01-09 7:15 PM
:laugh: Sometimes it's all about the food, ya know. :blush:
Parent - - By Schantzie [us] Date 2018-01-09 6:54 PM
It's pretty scary when 25 feels nice, but hey, enjoy it!
Parent - By jaszflamus (I like wool!) Date 2018-01-09 7:16 PM
Whoa that's not scary...that's really REALLY nice!:shocker!::cool: Nice going!
Parent - - By IB Date 2018-01-09 7:12 PM
3 miles



probably upper 50's at 1500

Salomon XR Mission
Parent - - By jaszflamus (I like wool!) Date 2018-01-09 7:20 PM
ok let me guess...3 pennies.

Out of curiosity, have you kept track of your cents per mile over the years?
Parent - By IB Date 2018-01-09 9:09 PM
Not exactly but I do have a record of what I've found each year and the number of miles ran. So I could produce that figure.
- - By noquitter [us] Date 2018-01-09 7:16 AM
Can't remember when I posted last. I think it was Wednesday.  I couldn't get on here for a few days like everyone else so I will try to hit the highlights and move on.

Wednesday: group run for a measly 3 very cold miles at 6:30 in the evening.

Thursday: squeezed in 3 on my TM at 7:30 because I knew I didn't want to run Friday.

Saturday was probably the highlight. Bitter cold but through many layers and the company of friends, I got out there and did 6.

Sunday: there were predictions of freezing rain but the temps were in 30s.  Our group run was at 7:30 and I managed to get out there and get in 4 before the the sleet came down about 8:30. Everyone made it back safely. Felt very lucky.

Monday: I got up ran 3.5 and then did weights at the gym Monday night.
Parent - By Arimathea [us] Date 2018-01-09 8:37 AM
Nice planning of runs to work around weather conditions!
Parent - By blazer85 [us] Date 2018-01-09 10:33 AM
Run with the "company of friends" is always a highlight!
Parent - By skigirl Date 2018-01-09 10:54 AM
Lots of great workouts there!  :cool:
Parent - By rob26.2 Date 2018-01-09 12:31 PM
Nice re-cap of your week!
Parent - By redraider0528 (Fashionista) Date 2018-01-09 1:38 PM
Good stuff!! :cool::cool:
Parent - By Beastie Girl [us] Date 2018-01-09 3:08 PM
:cool:
Parent - By Schantzie [us] Date 2018-01-09 7:05 PM
Way to coordinate the training with the weather!  Bitter cold :cry:
- - By brneydrnnr (barney cougar) [us] Date 2018-01-09 8:24 AM
2.15 with Benji - we're in the house now, so figuring out routes in the new hood - plus, starting from scratch after taking too much time off. Didn't see anybody else out and about
Parent - By Arimathea [us] Date 2018-01-09 8:37 AM
Congratulations on the new house! Figuring out routes in new neighborhoods is a lot easier with Google Maps, I find. But it's also fun to go out and see what streets connect with what.
Parent - By classicsnerd [us] Date 2018-01-09 8:51 AM
congrats on the new house! always hard to get back after a layoff (that's where I'm at too) but you'll get there.
Parent - - By blazer85 [us] Date 2018-01-09 9:11 AM
Are you still in Dallas?
Parent - - By brneydrnnr (barney cougar) [us] Date 2018-01-09 9:45 AM
I am - we moved from Marsh & Walnut Hill to Royal and Webb Chapel - so a mile north and a mile west :laugh:
we'd been staying in Grapevine with a friend since August while undergoing renovations, but it's done enough now for us to live there - thank goodness! The drive from Grapevine to Richardson was probably going to drive me to murder : pbbt:
Parent - - By skigirl Date 2018-01-09 10:54 AM
:shocker!:  Since August!  Wow, those are some major renovations.  Or you've had massive problems with your contractors.  : pbbt:
Parent - By brneydrnnr (barney cougar) [us] Date 2018-01-09 11:01 AM
all of the above! :laugh:
our contractor is a nice guy, and actually a friend of a friend, but he is literally the worst project manager I have ever met. If he would hire someone to manage scheduling and day to day tasks, we would have been finished in November and he would have gotten his final check already.
Parent - By Schantzie [us] Date 2018-01-09 7:12 PM
You should have some great running routes around there.  I'm sure it's just a matter of time until you find some good ones and make some running friends.  Seems like the Run On training groups used to go through there way early on Sunday mornings occasionally.  Sigh.  I lived in Allen from 2001-2013, worked for and trained with Run-On.  But it's OK.  I don't miss it.  I don't miss Blazer, or Indie or donnasaur or any of Dallas.  Not at freakin' all.  :roll:
Parent - - By cowboyjunkie Date 2018-01-09 11:03 AM
It must feel good to finally be moved in!
Parent - - By brneydrnnr (barney cougar) [us] Date 2018-01-09 11:13 AM
it really does! there are tons of little things left to do, but sleeping in my own bed and not worrying about the boys messing up someone else's house is a huge relief :cool:
Parent - By cowboyjunkie Date 2018-01-09 11:40 AM
:happy::hug:
Parent - - By redraider0528 (Fashionista) Date 2018-01-09 11:28 AM
Have you made dinner there yet?
I've got major stove envy. : pbbt::hug:
Parent - - By brneydrnnr (barney cougar) [us] Date 2018-01-09 1:16 PM
I heated up soup last night, in the microwave :laugh: And tomorrow night I'm doing crock pot soup - we don't actually have much in the way of groceries yet, but this weekend, it's on!
Parent - - By redraider0528 (Fashionista) Date 2018-01-09 1:36 PM
I don't even think I'm fancy enough to call it the right thing... I should've said range, right?
Parent - - By brneydrnnr (barney cougar) [us] Date 2018-01-09 1:39 PM
I guess technically it's a range - but we can be unfancy together and call it a stove :laugh:
Parent - By redraider0528 (Fashionista) Date 2018-01-09 1:44 PM
:hug:
Parent - By noquitter [us] Date 2018-01-09 11:53 AM
Nice you can explore together.
Parent - By rob26.2 Date 2018-01-09 12:32 PM
Have fun exploring the new area!
Parent - By Beastie Girl [us] Date 2018-01-09 3:08 PM
New routes are fun!
- - By Arimathea [us] Date 2018-01-09 8:36 AM
Yay, we're back! Managed to post some responses to responses to my posts, but couldn't view any lists of threads. So:
Sunday: 5 miles before WW. Down 1.8 lbs.
Monday: 3.2 in a very light rain before work, then 6.25 on the TM at lunch.
Today: 6 in a heavier rain. RN and I did 4 together, then she headed off to get ready for work and I did a couple more miles around the subdivision. Not a bad run, it's not that cold, but windy as well as rainy. We passed Greyhound Lady, who did not have her dogs with her this morning, but was bundled up in a yellow slicker and pants that would have suited a New England fisherman. She does not care for inclement weather and wears sweats even in a California summer. We know it's very hot when GL switches to capris. Longer run because I am working from home today. The traffic map already looks like a couple of old pop songs: "Tie a Yellow Ribbon 'Round the Old Oak Tree" and "Scarlet Ribbons". With accents of red squares where people have proven this morning that two solid objects, such as two cars, a car and a big rig, or a car and a guardrail, cannot occupy the same point in space simultaneously.

I may try for a second run later, but that depends on the weather.
Parent - By brneydrnnr (barney cougar) [us] Date 2018-01-09 9:47 AM
we heard "Tie a Yellow Ribbon" the other day on the radio - man, Tony Orlando and Dawn :wistfulness:
Parent - By cowboyjunkie Date 2018-01-09 10:34 AM
Greyhound lady :happy:

Nice running!
Parent - - By blazer85 [us] Date 2018-01-09 10:36 AM
I stopped drinking a bottle of wine every day (which I think I did for nearly three weeks straight over the holidays) and am down 2 pounds since the first.  I can easily give up the wine, cookies on the hand.....
Parent - By Arimathea [us] Date 2018-01-09 1:55 PM
That's why the Veganuary as well as the Dry January. I'm missing the wine but it's good for me to skip it for a while. (I can also put away a bottle of wine by myself without blinking. Not that I get a chance to when DD is in the house!) Cookies, cakes, and candies usually have egg, milk, and/or butter in them so if I am cutting out those then that's a lot of empty calories that don't get consumed.
Parent - - By skigirl Date 2018-01-09 10:53 AM

> With accents of red squares where people have proven this morning that two solid objects, such as two cars, a car and a big rig, or a car and a guardrail, cannot occupy the same point in space simultaneously.


:laugh::laugh::laugh:
Parent - By Arimathea [us] Date 2018-01-09 5:19 PM
Many Californians just do not know how to drive in the rain...
Parent - By Xtreme Taper Date 2018-01-09 1:01 PM
Yay for the doubles! :cool:
Parent - By redraider0528 (Fashionista) Date 2018-01-09 1:39 PM
That seems like all good! Glad y'all are getting some rain!
Parent - By Beastie Girl [us] Date 2018-01-09 3:09 PM
Nice runs!
Parent - By noquitter [us] Date 2018-01-09 6:35 PM
If I'm not running I want all the layers. I can kind of sympathize with her.:blush:
Parent - By Schantzie [us] Date 2018-01-09 7:15 PM
nice soundtracks to go with the traffic maps :grin:  Working from home is awesome!!
- - By redraider0528 (Fashionista) Date 2018-01-09 8:38 AM
5.1
Struggled. My quads were on fire from yoga I guess :wtf:
Parent - - By Arimathea [us] Date 2018-01-09 8:38 AM
But you made it! How much yoga have you been doing?
Parent - By redraider0528 (Fashionista) Date 2018-01-09 8:47 AM
Well, I was going 4x per week but with my kids out of school, I didn't go much at all... that could explain the soreness. We also did a lot of balance work yesterday.

Yes! I made it. :)
Parent - By redraider0528 (Fashionista) Date 2018-01-09 11:07 AM
Thought I answered this but it disappeared into space.
I'm shooting for 4x per week but over the holidays was tough with my kids out of school. They started back yesterday so I'm back at it! :cool:
Parent - - By classicsnerd [us] Date 2018-01-09 8:50 AM
but you did it!

echoing A's question - how much yoga are you doing?  Also - is it one of your primary XT methods? how do you find that it enhances your running? I've recently re-committed to it and I'm liking the results.
Parent - By redraider0528 (Fashionista) Date 2018-01-09 11:06 AM
Right now, it's my only XT method. I had been doing crossfit for about 2-3 years and running maybe 10ish miles a week. I started running with friends and just kind of remembered how much I loved it. :) I got pretty burnt out with the gym I was currently at - the workouts and the people :roll: -- Since my mileage was increasing, I just decided why not totally flip the switch and see what happens. I can't really tell you how it's enhancing but I feel like it is likely aiding in my recovery. Maybe if I keep it up over the course of a few months, I can answer that better.

Sorry for the long winded answer but I figured I'd give you my background. :)
Parent - - By skigirl Date 2018-01-09 10:52 AM
Some days feel better than others - and the struggle-y runs make you stronger for other runs later on.
Parent - By redraider0528 (Fashionista) Date 2018-01-09 11:06 AM
:hug:
Parent - - By rob26.2 Date 2018-01-09 12:36 PM
Ya know .1 less and you would have a nice, perfect, whole number.  : pbbt:
Parent - - By redraider0528 (Fashionista) Date 2018-01-09 1:36 PM
:laugh:
Parent - By The Beard (is wearing Arm Panties) [us] Date 2018-01-09 1:51 PM
But .2 more would have impressed the hell out of everyone.
Parent - By noquitter [us] Date 2018-01-09 6:35 PM
Hopefully it will help make you faster once the soreness wears off.
Parent - By Schantzie [us] Date 2018-01-09 7:19 PM
Ugh!  I hate that soreness from cross-training.  I suffered with it for nearly a week after my last gawd-awful PT session.  Of course, being away for nearly six months may have been a contributing factor.....:roll: 

Yaaay for school starting again.  Everyone's ready for a return to routine!
- - By classicsnerd [us] Date 2018-01-09 8:41 AM
let's see... Saturday and Sunday were only 1 mile each, plus yoga each day. But I did get to see TWO friends - Saturday afternoon was an art museum trip and Sunday morning I had another friend over for brunch - AND DH and I had date night on Saturday! we went out for movie + dinner. Went to see "Molly's Game," which was great - did not disappoint.

Yesterday was yoga and 4 TM miles. Today should be the same. I've done the yoga so far and will get the run in later.  We had sleet and freezing rain yesterday so the run will be on the TM for safety reasons. looks like we're getting a big warmup as of later today so my runs should be outside after today. I'm going to a conference in DC on Friday and Saturday so will get to run there, which should be fun. I'm also SO excited to sleep ALONE in a hotel room on Friday night :laugh:
Parent - - By blazer85 [us] Date 2018-01-09 10:38 AM
blazerman HATES to go to the movies, so I either go with alone or with a kid.  blazerman then expects I will inform him if he will like whatever movie I went to see.  I saw Molly's Game and also loved it and told him he will like it as well.
Parent - - By skigirl Date 2018-01-09 10:50 AM
So he'll only go to a movie if you've pre-screened it and assured him he will like it?  :laugh:
Parent - - By blazer85 [us] Date 2018-01-09 2:20 PM
Yes!!  He has only two movies in the movie theater in the 9 years we have lived in Texas.  He hates that he can not "pause" movies....he is so spoiled!
Parent - By classicsnerd [us] Date 2018-01-10 6:59 AM
that's funny! I just love the whole immersive experience of an actual movie... and plus, since we now have a little one, we hardly ever get to go, so it feels even more fun.  we used to go to the movies a couple of times a month.
Parent - By noquitter [us] Date 2018-01-09 6:36 PM
Movies use to be so simple. I think if they were 50 cents like the used to be, more people would be willing to take a chance.:laugh:
Parent - By skigirl Date 2018-01-09 10:51 AM
Nice work keeping the streak going in bad weather!  I can totally relate to how exciting it will be to have a hotel room all to yourself.
Parent - By Xtreme Taper Date 2018-01-09 1:01 PM
Enjoy your quiet time. The snow/sleet here (upper Montgomery/berks county line) was pretty much nothing yesterday, but it was a ghost town out there last night.
Parent - By redraider0528 (Fashionista) Date 2018-01-09 1:40 PM
A hotel bed alone! :laugh: I know the feeling!!

Enjoy your run!
Parent - By Schantzie [us] Date 2018-01-09 7:23 PM
Nice you got to see friends :hug:  

Looks like "Molly's Game" needs to be on our list. 

I love DC!!  DH had an 8-week work assignment there last winter, so I went out and spent a couple of weeks with him and went to the National Mall several times.  Just loved it.  And of course, loved seeing DH :hug:
- - By blazer85 [us] Date 2018-01-09 9:09 AM
9 miles this morning, 4 were tempo-y-ish. Will go to boxing class tonight.

Yesterday, on our neighborhood Facebook page, a woman posted a complaint about a spot on the neighborhood bike path, which is at a low lying area, was muddy. She was rather irritated that she almost slipped in her morning walk and who was responsible for "taking care of this problem". :roll: I REALLY tried not to post and point out it had rained about seven hours the day before and that when it rains, mud is often the result. I really did try! But instead, I engaged with crazy and that led to her going off on me. My husband, who usually hates when I acknowledge people who have nothing better to worry about than mud after rain, wasn't even embarrassed by me this time. :laugh:
Parent - By cowboyjunkie Date 2018-01-09 10:15 AM
oh geeezzzzzzzzzzzzzz! :laugh:

Great run!
Parent - By skigirl Date 2018-01-09 10:49 AM
:laugh::laugh::laugh::evil:
Parent - - By brneydrnnr (barney cougar) [us] Date 2018-01-09 11:13 AM
do you go to ilovekickboxing or just a regular boxing gym?
Parent - By blazer85 [us] Date 2018-01-09 2:21 PM
Regular boxing.....I am WAY too ungraceful and lack any sense of balance to be able to kickbox!
Parent - By rob26.2 Date 2018-01-09 12:37 PM
Good job! :mischief: Also, nice run!
Parent - By Xtreme Taper Date 2018-01-09 12:59 PM
Oh god, send that that neighbor of yours to some of my trails so she really has something to bitch about!
Parent - By redraider0528 (Fashionista) Date 2018-01-09 1:41 PM
:laugh::laugh::laugh: So funny!

What time do you get started to run that much distance?
Parent - By Arimathea [us] Date 2018-01-09 1:58 PM
Lady, if you walk outside, and it has been raining most of the day, yes, it could be muddy. Even concrete paths might have some mud across them.

Does she think there's a person with a broom whose job it is to clean the path for her? Or maybe she expects Sir Walter Raleigh to lay down his cloak for her to walk across like Queen Elizabeth?
Parent - By Beastie Girl [us] Date 2018-01-09 3:09 PM
:laugh::laugh:
Parent - By noquitter [us] Date 2018-01-09 6:39 PM
Good job on the 9 miles.
Parent - - By Schantzie [us] Date 2018-01-09 7:25 PM
Wow!  Tempo after two half-marys - looks like you're gettin' back in the game !! :cool:

But the mud, alas, THE MUD !!!  :cry::cry:                                 :shocker!::roll::laugh:
Parent - By blazer85 [us] Date 2018-01-09 7:54 PM
My tempo-y-ish miles are not very impressive.
- - By cowboyjunkie Date 2018-01-09 10:24 AM
Really glad I got out there over the weekend and did the long run I had planned even with the cold. I had talked myself into postponing in while in bed, but then once I was out there, it was no problem. A reminder to always get out there!

7.3 in much more reasonable temps last night.

8 or so tonight.

Saw a post on fb by the marathon investigation guy who caught an ultra runner I've met over the years cheating in a number of races. I have to admit he always kinda set my radar off. I followed his blog over the years (he wrote some good rr) and know he got lots of free entries and gear and had some sponsorships. I saw him at Vermont 100 a couple of years ago and remember him complaining about the heat and humidity and how he hated the race. He won a bunch of timed events and I guess his Leadville results are now suspect too. He is apparently deleting race reports and stuff off his blog. He was confronted at Across the Years last weekend. The timer was told to watch him closely and caught him. Sucks that this stuff happens.
Parent - By blazer85 [us] Date 2018-01-09 10:31 AM
I saw that write-up, but haven't had time to read it yet.
Parent - By skigirl Date 2018-01-09 10:48 AM

> I had talked myself into postponing in while in bed, but then once I was out there, it was no problem. A reminder to always get out there!


:cool::cool::cool:  Words to live by!
Parent - By rob26.2 Date 2018-01-09 12:38 PM
Yes, the in-bed run postponing can happen a lot in the winter. Good job getting out there.
Parent - - By Xtreme Taper Date 2018-01-09 12:58 PM
I ran both days this past weekend. Saturday was the worst because of the wind. I broke my streak of not wearing running pants. Sunday though 10 degrees almost felt pleasant with the lack of wind. Good for you for getting a long run in though. I only did 6 and 5.

Oh, I knew that guy in the article. He posted for awhile on RW trails and also running ahead. I met him a few times as well since he was local to PA for a few years. I was always slightly suspicious of him as once out at Labor Pains I sort of crept up on him in and passed him in loop 5 and I had been running pretty well and did not remember seeing him at the start nor him passing me though it could have happened at the loop end I suppose... plus some of the timed events/loop course he did really well. I sort of just chalked it up to him being good at those races and not so much mountain/technical trail courses but I guess not? Sad.
Parent - - By cowboyjunkie Date 2018-01-09 1:12 PM
17 miles Saturday. It was -4 when I got to the park and +2 when I finished up. Some wind. Some snow on the trail which required a little extra effort in parts.

Funny. I was going to do 20. Then as I lay in bed with the warm flannel sheets and kitties and wind whipping, I thought, maybe I will postpone the 20 to next weekend and only do 10. Once I was out there though, it was fine and a reminder that the wind is always worse on the hill where I live. I ended up with 17 because it occurred to me that it would be good luck for the Bills since it was 17 years since they last made the playoffs. Sunday it was -12 according to my car..maybe +4 when I finished. Less windy but noticeably colder I thought. 10.5.

Interesting about Labor Pains. As I mentioned, I always felt something was off with him. He never had fast times at Vermont, so maybe he ran the whole thing? If I remember, the year I saw him there he might have been going for the grand slam? He knew my friend Chris a bit because she use to direct a race he ran..Anyway, he was real whiny about the weather at Vermont when we saw him at packet pick up. I think he ran it a couple of times.. In his blog posts, he seemed to like the sponsorships and the free gear and race entries that sometimes came with it..
Parent - - By Xtreme Taper Date 2018-01-09 1:33 PM
Nice running. :cool:

He ran Catoctin one year and complained about the trail, the rocks, and the heat. Hello, it's Catoctin (VA, Appalachian mountains) and it's August. His times were no better, likely slower than mine, at the more difficult courses which always made me wonder about his fast times at other events.
Parent - By cowboyjunkie Date 2018-01-09 1:51 PM
Pretty much what he was doing at Vermont.
Parent - By cowboyjunkie Date 2018-01-09 1:54 PM
And now it occurs to me..I wonder if the qualifying race he ran for WS the year he got in, was one where he cheated? As I recall, the year he got in he had lots of tickets so was almost automatic. And now I wonder how many of those qualifiers were legit?
Parent - - By redraider0528 (Fashionista) Date 2018-01-09 1:42 PM
So how was he cheating? I'm curious.

Have a good run tonight!
Parent - - By Xtreme Taper Date 2018-01-09 1:45 PM
Here is the thread.

Basically at the timed (loop event) he was hitting the porto or taking a break than slipping across the timing mat to record another loop without running it.
Parent - By redraider0528 (Fashionista) Date 2018-01-09 2:40 PM
Thanks
Parent - - By cowboyjunkie Date 2018-01-09 1:49 PM
In the one last weekend, a 48 hour race on a loop course, the report says he would come through, cross the timing mat and then go in the portapotty for 7 minutes. When he came out, he would cross the mat again and thus be recorded as having completed another loop. He did this/was observed multiple times. Would check his watch going into the potty. When he was confronted, he said he accidentally did it but the timer had been told to watch out for him and observed him doing this. When confronted, he turned in his chip with little objection and left. At other races, including leadville 100, he also missed timing mats a few years in a row. But it seems he wasn't really challenged about it until now. I find it all very sad.. Sad that he apparently had the need to do this and that others who put their heart into a race (in the ones he won anyway) did not get the recognition for their hard work.
Parent - - By Arimathea [us] Date 2018-01-09 2:09 PM
I can possibly see doing that once, but not multiple times, and it looks like he was adding an extra lap for every 3 legitimate ones with the "potty" ruse and probably grabbing a snack or a drink some other times and then going over the mat again.
Parent - By cowboyjunkie Date 2018-01-09 2:23 PM
Yup. Pretty consistent in how he was doing it..
Parent - By redraider0528 (Fashionista) Date 2018-01-09 2:40 PM
Thanks! I’ll check out the link above.
That’s really too bad :(
Parent - - By Beastie Girl [us] Date 2018-01-09 3:10 PM
So loops would take approximately 7 minutes to complete? I think I missed that the first time I read it. Yeah, that's pretty damning. :mutmad:
Parent - By cowboyjunkie Date 2018-01-09 3:11 PM
Well, it depends on your pace, but it seems to be sort of consistent with the loops he was actually running...about that.
Parent - - By Arimathea [us] Date 2018-01-09 2:07 PM
Nice job!

I don't understand why people think it's OK to cheat if they don't get caught. Or why they think that they will never be caught. Is it really worth the sponsorship of some suppliers (I'm guessing most of the sponsorship is in the form of free product and maybe assistance with race costs, not actual financial assistance) and being listed as the winner if they cheated to get there?
Parent - By cowboyjunkie Date 2018-01-09 2:28 PM
In his blog, he would sometimes mention the comped entries he got. He did shoe reviews sometimes too and got lots of free shoes.. But yeah, I wonder if it really stems from low self esteem and the need to be recognized in some fashion. If I recall, he was overweight at some point and then began running and saw that as a turning point in his life. He came on the scene fast and did multiple ultras a year and I always thought he would be one of those people who would end up injured/burned out bc it seemed unsustainable. This is all based on reading his blog in the past.
Parent - - By noquitter [us] Date 2018-01-09 6:40 PM
It's hard to get out there, but if you can just keep going it usually turns out better than ok.
Parent - By cowboyjunkie Date 2018-01-09 7:06 PM
Yup!
Parent - By Schantzie [us] Date 2018-01-09 7:27 PM
It is so true:  the hardest part of any run is the first mile.  I really have trouble getting started, especially now that most of my runs are solo.  Good for you!!
- - By skigirl Date 2018-01-09 10:47 AM
So nice to have the forum back!  Thanks to all who  made that happen.  :happy:

Saturday: 15-ish km on the TM - intervals 3 mins walk/2 mins run. 

Sunday: somewhere around 11-12 km of xc skiing.  Gorgeous conditions - great snow, just a few degrees below freezing, deep blue sky.  :hug:

Monday: rest day

Tuesday: 30-ish mins run this morning; will do cardio/strength after work tonight.
Parent - By cowboyjunkie Date 2018-01-09 11:01 AM
XC days sounds awesome!

As cold as it was here over the weekend, it was sunny both days.
Parent - By rob26.2 Date 2018-01-09 12:40 PM
Your Sunday sounds awesome. :cool:
Parent - By redraider0528 (Fashionista) Date 2018-01-09 1:42 PM
:cool: Sounds like some good workouts!
Parent - - By noquitter [us] Date 2018-01-09 6:41 PM
Did I see that you ran on a TM?:shocker!:
Parent - - By skigirl Date 2018-01-09 6:42 PM
Icy sidewalks.  :cry:
Parent - By noquitter [us] Date 2018-01-10 9:31 PM
TM > than icy sidewalks. It's not worth it.
Parent - By Schantzie [us] Date 2018-01-09 7:29 PM
Nice you had such a good outing on Sunday.  You need days like that!!
- - By rob26.2 Date 2018-01-09 11:50 AM
9 uneventful miles and the 30* felt really warm. :cool:

On my Sat. run; it was 9* and 0 wind chill.  I was using my iPod Shuffle and was outbound only a mile from my house.  I was listening to this song when my iPod froze. :laugh: I ended up putting the iPod in my mitten and after it warmed up, it worked great.
Parent - By Xtreme Taper Date 2018-01-09 12:51 PM
Ah, a bit of the "gods they must be crazy" for you and your frozen iPod. :grin:
Parent - By Ed [us] Date 2018-01-09 12:53 PM
Nice song choice!  I've worked that and this cover of it into a playlist or two for indoor cycling class!
Parent - By redraider0528 (Fashionista) Date 2018-01-09 1:43 PM
My phone froze when it was 18 here. :laugh: I've been wearing a vest lately to put my baby phone in. :roll:

Good run!
Parent - - By skigirl Date 2018-01-09 2:57 PM
Apple products are so wimpy - I have to take such good care of my iPhone when I'm running in the winter, and bury it deep in the layers I'm wearing, otherwise it freezes up and won't come back to life until I get home and plug it in.  Kind of defeats the purpose of having it with me for phoning home if I have a problem and need to be rescued.  :roll:
Parent - By The Beard (is wearing Arm Panties) [us] Date 2018-01-09 3:03 PM
My headlamp (Black Diamond, not sure of the model) dies about a mile into a run when it is below zero.
Parent - By noquitter [us] Date 2018-01-09 6:42 PM
Oh my.  I've read about phones freezing. Glad you got your music back.
Parent - By Schantzie [us] Date 2018-01-09 7:30 PM
oh the irony!  :laugh:  Glad you were able to revive the shuffle :wink:
- - By Ed [us] Date 2018-01-09 12:56 PM
1 indoor walking mile at the gym, hip & shoulder exercises, 1200 meter swim.

Freezing rain late yesterday afternoon & evening made everything a sheet of ice around here.  I bailed on meeting a bunch of indoor cycling class enthusiasts at a TGIF last night.  Not worth the risk!  Apparently a few folks did show up.

I spent 20 minutes in sunny 34 degree weather this morning knocking ice off my car before going to the gym.  It's now 44 and things are melting fast.
Parent - By cowboyjunkie Date 2018-01-09 1:12 PM
Smart about the ice. That is one thing that will deter me too.
Parent - By redraider0528 (Fashionista) Date 2018-01-09 1:44 PM
Glad you stayed in!
Sounds like good workouts!
Parent - By skigirl Date 2018-01-09 2:55 PM
Ice is a deal-breaker for me - too much risk.  You were smart!
Parent - By Schantzie [us] Date 2018-01-09 6:45 PM
Enjoy that well-deserved heat wave.  Poor cars :meh:
Parent - By noquitter [us] Date 2018-01-09 6:45 PM
You never know when people will show up, but driving on a sheet of ice is not worth it.
- - By Beastie Girl [us] Date 2018-01-09 2:23 PM
I am going to try to get out for a few miles after work tonight. It will depend as always on what time I get out of work. I didn't run this morning because I went to the DMV to change my name on my driver's license and registration. :cool: This  was my second time there, and I had to bring my birth certificate, my marriage license from my first marriage in 1998, and my new marriage license, which didn't have my first married name on it but my maiden name, hence the need for the other two documents (and the reason I had to come back :roll:). Whew. An hour and one terrible picture later, the state of New Jersey now recognizes me as Martha Maranzani! :cool:

I've been mostly biking to nowhere lately with the snow last week and then the extreme cold snap. DH took delivery of his new bike on Saturday, and I took my old bike in for the bike shop guy to look at, and I ended up ordering a new bike as well since mine is super old (at least 15 years old). I should be getting it in the next week or so. :cool:  Marathon training starts Monday for the B&A Trail Marathon on 4/8. Goal is still the elusive sub-4. My 5k winter series starts Sunday. The races are late, they start at 11am! I guess in deference to it being winter and maybe holding the races when it's warmer?
Parent - - By blazer85 [us] Date 2018-01-09 2:30 PM
B&A was my last BQ, so I hold it fondly in my heart.  Very flat course and super fun to run if you have nooner with you.:hug:  They had Nutella and bagels at the end, so there is that.....
Parent - By Beastie Girl [us] Date 2018-01-09 3:11 PM
:grin:
Parent - - By skigirl Date 2018-01-09 2:55 PM
Congratulations on the name change!  You'll still be Beastie Girl here, though, right?  :laugh:
Parent - By Beastie Girl [us] Date 2018-01-09 3:12 PM
:laugh: Yes, because the name change process is such a pain in the ass! : pbbt:
Parent - - By Ed [us] Date 2018-01-09 3:11 PM
Whenever I see one of your posts on FB where you word play with "married" and your new last name I can't help but read it as you've been Marinated!  :laugh:
Parent - By Beastie Girl [us] Date 2018-01-09 3:12 PM
:laugh::laugh:
Parent - By blazer85 [us] Date 2018-01-09 3:32 PM
I am still trying to figure out who that Martha is on Facebook.....always takes me a minute!
Parent - - By SRoo Date 2018-01-09 3:48 PM
Ooh, new bike!  What kind?  :grin:
Parent - - By Beastie Girl [us] Date 2018-01-09 4:21 PM
Last year's model of a Cannondale something something (I forget the model name, it's on the receipt which is at home). Carbon fiber road bike. HUGE step up from my current bike. :cool:
Parent - By Schantzie [us] Date 2018-01-09 6:41 PM
DH has a Cannondale and absolutely loves it!! :cool:
Parent - By SRoo Date 2018-01-09 7:44 PM
Fun!
Parent - By Schantzie [us] Date 2018-01-09 6:43 PM
You gotta be proud of actually having all those documents :cool:  That's a hassle.  I could probably produce my birth certificate if needed, but the marriage license?  Who only knows :roll: 

Yaaaay on the new bike!!
Parent - By noquitter [us] Date 2018-01-09 6:46 PM
Good luck on your marathon training.
Parent - By ironjen Date 2018-01-10 7:02 AM
What kind of bike are you getting? I want to see pics!
- - By triplejake (The Vampire Lestat) [us] Date 2018-01-09 3:49 PM
3.1 miles for me today.
Parent - - By Schantzie [us] Date 2018-01-09 7:31 PM
A deliberate or accidental 5K?
Parent - By triplejake (The Vampire Lestat) [us] Date 2018-01-10 11:12 AM
Accidental for sure.
- - By Schantzie [us] Date 2018-01-09 6:40 PM
4 easy miles this morning in 46 degrees.  I wore shorts, long sleeves and NO GLOVES (which I kind of regretted).  

Yesterday was 6 x .5 miles.  I was proud of that one :cool:

Sunday I led a group run which was a first for me and a huge source of anxiety, but everything worked out fine.  The 3 miles were super slow, but the runners in the group were great, and the results more than offset the angst that came with stepping way outside my comfort zone. 

Saturday before all this, I did my LR of 15.5.  I'm ahead on my Boston training, but will be skipping at least five days next week when we go all out for DD's wedding in Boston, or Melrose, actually. 

For those of you following the drama, I fixed the terrible mess I'd made with my dress and if y'all don't tell, then no one will know.  Gawd, it took some work.  I just cut out the part I had marked (stupid, stupid, stupid) and then hand-stitched it nice and neat.  It took for freaking ever, but I actually feel pretty good about it because I was able to clean up my own mess, and the dress really does look good.  I also finished hemming my DIL's dress, which I did NOT screw up, and it looks good except for all the wrinkles.  Fortunately DS has a steamer for his apparel samples (he works for adidas :cool:) so he's throwing that in his luggage.  (I love Southwest Airlines!!)  This wedding is giving me anxiety dreams similar to the ones I get before a marathon, except instead of dreaming the race route is going through a building, I dream that I leave the imprint of an iron on my DIL's dress, or spill bacon grease on mine :wtf:
Parent - By jaszflamus (I like wool!) Date 2018-01-09 8:24 PM
Never mind my comment above about the 25, except that it's just as apropos for your 46 and your runs yesterday and today. :cool:

I don't know the drama about your dress but get the picture. I do know that you are going to rock the wedding and rock Boston. Enjoy the next few days. :hug:
Parent - By blazer85 [us] Date 2018-01-10 6:13 AM
Of course you fixed your dress! Such an exciting time!
- - By LDR (100 Mile Stud) [us] Date 2018-01-09 7:53 PM
10 miles with my friends in the cemetery.  The roads were still ice covered.  Despite that, it went well.

my first run of the new year
Parent - - By jaszflamus (I like wool!) Date 2018-01-09 8:25 PM
:cool: Wish I were there.
Parent - By LDR (100 Mile Stud) [us] Date 2018-01-10 10:01 AM
I remember years ago some advice, and warning, you gave to me on running icy roads/surfaces.  Some of it came to mind last night.  :cool:
Parent - - By Schantzie [us] Date 2018-01-09 8:33 PM
C'mon, who's gonna do it?  

.....tapping fingers....

......sighing.....

...shrugging......

                                          Weren't you a little stiff?
Parent - By LDR (100 Mile Stud) [us] Date 2018-01-10 9:59 AM
:laugh::laugh: 

My first laugh of the day.  Thank you :hug::hug:
- By foggydoggy Date 2018-01-09 11:03 PM
3.3 treadmill miles... not recovered from Sundays race but my sore Achilles was a lot better!!!!!!
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